What Does in Control Mean in GTD?

In this episode we’re discussing the concept at the core of personal management: control. Specifically, we’ll be philosophizing about what control truly means within the context of the Getting Things Done (GTD) methodology. We’ll start with David Allen’s definition, which ties control to the workflow stages of capturing, clarifying, organizing, reflecting, and engaging. But does that definition fully capture the complex, often psychological, reality of feeling “in control”? Then, we explore how to build tangible systems and “guardrails” that move us from simply feeling overwhelmed to being confidently in command of our work and personal lives.

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In this Cast | What Does Control Mean in GTD?

Ray Sidney-Smith

Augusto Pinaud

Art Gelwicks

Francis Wade

Show Notes | What Does Control Mean in GTD?

Resources we mention, including links to them, will be provided here. Please listen to the episode for context.

Getting Things Done (GTD) by David Allen

How to Get Control of Your Time in Your Life by Alan Lakein

Freedom.to (A Focus application used to block digital distractions)

Fitbit watch (Used to track sleep)

Byron Katie’s process (A methodology for managing unwanted thoughts or feelings)

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Voiceover Artist | 00:00

Are you ready to manage your work and personal world better to live a more fulfilling, productive life? Then you’ve come to the right place. Welcome to ProductivityCast, the weekly show about all things personal productivity. Here are your hosts, Ray Sidney-Smith and Augusto Pinaud with Francis Wade and Art Gelwicks.

Raymond Sidney-Smith | 00:19

Welcome back, everybody, to ProductivityCast, the weekly show about all things personal productivity. I’m Ray Sidney-Smith.

Augusto Pinaud | 00:25

And I’m Augusto Pinaud.

Francis Wade | 00:26

I’m Francis Wade.

Art Gelwicks | 00:28

And I’m Art Gelwicks.

Raymond Sidney-Smith | 00:29

Welcome, gentlemen, and welcome to our listeners to this episode. Today, we are going to do some philosophizing, I suppose, and hopefully bringing ourselves from that level down to the practical. We’re going to be talking about control. And what I wanted to do was to preface this with The concept of control and perspective in the Getting Things Done or GTD methodology perspective, which is that that’s where came up to me in the first place. And over the years, it has changed. And so I want to talk about what does control mean to each of us and how do we actually make the concept of control practical even tangible in our own worlds. I’m going to define what David Allen says of control in Getting Things Done in the March 2015 edition, in the appendix, in the glossary of Getting Things Done terms, he actually gives a definition for control And then we’re going to talk a little bit about what, the concept of GTD control is so that we can then define what We think of it as in contrasting terms. 

So he says of control, one of the two key elements of self and organizational management along with perspective. And so that’s what he calls control in the most basic terms. And if we think about it from the concept of control and perspective, control are the steps of the or stages of the workflow going from capturing to clarifying to organizing, reflecting and engaging on the action level of the horizons of focus. That is what he considers control. 

And then as we go up the horizons on the y-axis, we then have projects and so on and so forth going up the horizons. And that’s what he considers perspective. 

So control are the actions that we take on the lowest level of the horizons of focus and everything above that becomes perspective. So kind of thinking of it as looking down at the actionability of the thing above itself. 

So when you’re at the highest level, Horizon 5 purpose and principle You are looking down at the other’s vision, goals, areas of focus and accountability, projects, and actions. So that is the GTD definition. And… We have all probably thought of it as being insufficient in some way, shape or form in our own worlds. And now what I’d like to do is to ask you all, gentlemen. How do you define control? And what is… If I think Art gave a really great example before we started recording, if someone came to you and said, I’m feeling out of control, how do you help them get in control or under control in their life?

Francis Wade | 03:10

So I think David Allen’s definition is basically a process definition. So he’s saying, here are the steps. Or managing tasks. And the ones that really start with capturing and so forth are basically the steps for managing tasks. And I suppose that I’m guessing that what he means by control is that the… Process of managing tasks is in control. Now, that has a very specific meaning in my world. I was trained in part as an industrial engineer. And we love For those of you who know the Leningrad-Stewart charts and control charts, we love the idea of measuring processes so that they stay in control. That’s not practical for most people to be able to use these kind of diagnostic tools. But the way I would advise to answer your question, Reem, someone who tells me that they’re out of control… Is to ask them What do you mean? Because the word control is a psychological object The definition has changed and it varies and there’s no uniform. Understanding of what it means. 

So you have to go to the next step and say, When you say control, the question I would ask is when you say control, What specifically? Symptoms are the ones that you notice and I would imply in real life. Not just in your emotional life, but in The Hard Tensible Life where are those symptoms occurring? Such that you’re led to conclude that you’re feeling out of control. 

So I would immediately go to and I would focus and start to break down their response. Between I’ve mentioned psychological objects like I’m feeling stressed, I’m feeling unhappy, I’m feeling unworthy, I’m feeling lazy. As opposed to I arrive at half of my appointments at least ten minutes late. Okay, there we go. That’s one. That’s a tangible object. We can work with that. What else do you have? Well… I wake up in the middle of the night three times out of the week. With something that I forgot to do. That’s two. All right, that’s another tangible activity. 

So I would look for the tangible symptoms. The things that you can put your finger on, you can touch, you can see. 

And then accumulate those so that we move the conversation from and feeling out of control. Towards And again, in the lingo of industrial engineers is defects. We’re looking for defects. And we’re looking to put them together so that we can say, okay, with these five defects, the root cause of them are Because the truth is, control is a lag indicator. Peely Walter Control is a lag indicator. Comes a lot after. The things that you Did or didn’t do. 

So we’re trying to go all the way back so that When we start to… Figure out what they should do, We’re actually looking at things that they did do or need to do or didn’t do. In tangible reality. 

So that’s how I would tackle it. Said that to me.

Art Gelwicks | 06:21

Control to me is a very… Unlike the industrial… Definition of it. I look at it from the almost the psychological side of it. Control is a perceived state of comfort It’s a lack of stress. It’s a… Point of awareness. Of activity And I think when someone says they are out of control, my first reaction is to ask the question, When do you feel things went out of control. Because I need to know contextually Is this something that is a recurring feeling, which means that it is probably systemic. To a process failure Or is it something that has recently happened, which may be triggered by an environmental response or some external factor that has pushed things off the rails? But control itself like a, can be an extremely negative impact. On work and process and quality of work. Having a sense of control. I don’t know is necessarily an extremely positive thing. It’s basically neutral. You feel like, okay, if I’m in control, I can do… What I need to do. If I’m out of control, I can’t do what I need to do. But at no point are we saying that if I’m in control, I can do better things. I’m just saying that I can do things. 

So to me, I always look at it from the mental aspect of it more than the process one, because The process one I can chase. I mean, I can look at the measures. I can look at the metrics involved and say, OK, this is working. This isn’t this. But that doesn’t necessarily, again, translate to a lack of control. And we’ve all seen it. We’ve had people who have processes that work somewhat. But they feel like they are in control, but we know looking at it, it’s like, no, you’re not. As much as you think you are, you’re careening wildly down the highway. 

So… The subjectivity of that term and the amorphousness of that term makes it difficult to have that initial conversation.

Raymond Sidney-Smith | 08:49

Procrastination Versus Conscious Deferral, Part 2

In this episode of ProductivityCast, we continue our deep dive into the psychological and tactical differences between stalling out and stepping back. While Part 1 focused on defining the core constructs of procrastination and conscious deferral, Part 2 moves into the "why" and the "how." (If you’re reading this in a podcast directory/app, please visit https://productivitycast.net/144 for clickable links and the full show notes and transcript of this cast.) Enjoy! Give us feedback! And, thanks for listening! If you'd like to continue discussing the concepts of procrastination, conscious deferral and/or unconscious deferral from this episode, please click here to leave a comment down below (this jumps you to the bottom of the post). In this Cast | Procrastination vs Conscious Deferral Ray Sidney-Smith Augusto Pinaud Art Gelwicks Francis Wade Show Notes | Procrastination vs Conscious Deferral Resources we mention, including links to them, will be provided here. Please listen to the episode for context. Key Takeaways Practice Persistent Starting: Don’t focus on the final outcome; focus on the act of beginning. Success is the aggregate of many small "starts." Diagnose the "Anchor Weight": If you are avoiding a task, it is likely due to a "lack of definition." Take five minutes to clarify the very next physical step to lower the barrier to entry. Distinguish Deferral from Procrastination: Conscious deferral is a strategic choice based on missing resources; procrastination is choosing a lower-value activity (like escapist media) over a high-priority intent. Utilize Retrospective Planning: After completing a difficult project, perform a "post-mortem" to document the steps you took. This creates a historical record that reduces anxiety for similar future tasks. Stop the "Shoulding": Avoid labeling yourself a "procrastinator." Using the term often induces shame and a "fear-based response" that further erodes the confidence needed to begin. Timestamps [01:51] The Anchor Weight: Why lack of definition causes stalling. [07:50] Unconscious Deferral vs. Procrastination: The role of the unconscious mind. [12:32] The Danger of Identity Labeling: Why calling yourself a "procrastinator" is harmful. [20:12] Moving Past Anxiety: Tactics for getting the ball rolling on new projects. [27:29] Persistent Starting: Using Dr. Neil Fiore’s technique to overcome blocks. [36:38] The Hunter-Gatherer Brain: Why our biology fights against long-term goals. [44:31] The Benefits of Procrastination: Using it as a filter for the unnecessary. Resources Mentioned Books: The Now Habit by Dr. Neil Fiore Atomic Habits by James Clear Concepts/Methods: Getting Things Done (GTD) The Byron Katie method for questioning thoughts. Retrospective (Backwards) Planning. People: Gretchen Rubin (The Four Tendencies/Upholders). Raw Text Transcript Raw, unedited and machine-produced text transcript so there may be substantial errors, but you can search for specific points in the episode to jump to, or to reference back to at a later date and time, by keywords or key phrases. The time coding is mm:ss (e.g., 0:04 starts at 4 seconds into the cast’s audio). Read More Voiceover Artist 0:00 Are you ready to manage your work and personal world better to live a fulfilling productive life, then you've come to the right place productivity cast, the weekly show about all things productivity. Here, your host Ray Sidney-Smith and Augusto Pinaud with Francis Wade and Art Gelwicks. Raymond Sidney-Smith 0:17 And Welcome back, everybody to productivity cast, the weekly show about all things personal productivity, I'm Ray Sidney Smith. Augusto Pinaud 0:24 I am Augusto Pinaud. Francis Wade 0:26I'm Francis Wade. Art Gelwicks 0:27 And I'm Art Gelwicks. Raymond Sidney-Smith | 00:29Welcome, gentlemen, and welcome to our listeners to this episode of ProductivityCast. Today, we are going to continue our conversation around procrastination and conscious deferral. And the conversation last time really covered mostly us discussing the defining nature of or just defining the nature of these two constructs, both procrastination and conscious deferral. And so what I'd like us to do is So if you have not listened to that episode, I would highly recommend that you hop back to the part one of this particular two episodes, and then we will now continue today in terms of really discussing the What we're going to do today is then start discussing why we procrastinate in the first place? What are some of the understandings of why we procrastinate and what are reasons for conscious deferral?And then we will… Discuss probably in and amongst that ways in which you can overcome procrastination and when it's probably appropriate to do conscious deferral. When it actually may not be, and it then bleeds back into procrastination. And there's a fine line there, of course.So let's talk about what are the major reasons why You all procrastinate. What are the reasons you've determined that procrastination ekes its way into your everyday life?Art Gelwicks | 01:51I'll throw myself under the bus first. One of the most common reasons that I'll put something off is lack of definition. If I haven't taken time to truly define out all the steps necessary to execute something, it winds up with this anchor weight attached to it to say, "Well, you don't know what you don't know, and you don't know quite what you're supposed to do, so maybe you should go do something else." Whether true or not, That's kind of where things wind up getting pushed to.So that, I'd say that's my primary one is lack of definition around what I'm supposed to be executing.Augusto Pinaud | 02:28Yeah, I need to agree with you 100%. For me… I can tell. By Monday morning. How good or bad my weekly review was on Friday. And I wish to tell that all of them are incredibly good. And I get out of there with a clear mind. And sometimes it doesn't happen. Even sometimes I do some kind of weekly review on Friday. I need to compliment that over the weekend because that is Lack of clarity, that lack of have that clear list of projects and actions, all that it produce is emergencies, fires and procrastination in my world.Francis Wade | 03:12I have a question though then, because the kind of the procrastination that Art was talking about sounds to me more like conscious deferral. That he's not unconsciously Putting off. The lack of definition. He's consciously doing it.Well, I should ask him. Are you unconsciously doing it because you haven't defined the action or are you consciously doing.Art Gelwicks | 03:33It? No, it's… I would agree it would look like conscious deferral that I'm making that action that, I don't have enough detail, therefore I can't get started. I'm not going to give it that level of credit. It's really a, it's a two-step problem. And the more I think about it, the first step in the problem is recognizing that I now need to allocate time to gather that information to know what I need to do for that thing.So for example, let's say I'm planning out an online ad. And I have some of the information I need, but I don't have all of it. And I know it needs to go out at a certain time.Well, I could just say it needs to be done. Or… What happens is I recognize that I need to spend some time filling in those gaps of the process necessary for that item, which means I'm going to have to chase down information to fill those gaps.So to execute that Task? There's a bunch of extra work that I need to front load. And that makes that task feel bigger, creating a bigger anchor, creating a bigger roadblock, therefore, subconsciously encouraging me to push that back to do things that I know I can accomplish and move forward on, which unfortunately winds up in that thing getting pushed back to a point where it becomes problematic.So. There may be times where that's a conscious thing where I say, look, I just don't know what I need to know. Therefore, I'm not going to do that thing. But to me, that's not procrastination. You're absolutely right. That's a choice. That's somebody hasn't provided me an update or something like that. That's a waiting on or a follow up. It's when I myself have not defined things clearly enough. To say Should or should I not proceed with this? That's when the procrastination part will kick in and say, you know what, why don't you hold off on that? You can go do something that you feel better about. And it's, I think it's the feel part more than anything. Because there isn't a rational reason to delay that work. It has to be done. There's nothing about it that says that you shouldn't be doing it. But there's a subconscious feeling there that's saying there's an almost an anxiety that's attached to it. Saying, you're going to find something that is going to be a real problem. Maybe you should put that off. I don't know if that helps any of us.Augusto Pinaud | 06:00No. And you bring a great point that it's that anxiety. It's the procrastination. It starts happening because I start getting all that anxiety of, is this really up to date? Is this really possible? The valuable task that I need to move forward? Is this really what need to happen? Or not. And that or not is the killing part of that.Francis Wade | 06:25I have a different, not different, but I have a… As I'm thinking about this, I wrote a an article on procrastination. It was a long time, like a decade ago. But I basically said that Something along the lines that procrastination was not well defined. And it seemed more like a The feeling. Than a fact. But what's happened over the years is that If someone were to ask me if I procrastinate, I would say no. I don't have that. Kind of self-talk. I don't use that term.

Procrastination Versus Conscious Deferral, Part 2

In this episode of ProductivityCast, we continue our deep dive into the psychological and tactical differences between stalling out and stepping back. While Part 1 focused on defining the core constructs of procrastination and conscious deferral, Part 2 moves into the "why" and the "how." (If you’re reading this in a podcast directory/app, please visit https://productivitycast.net/144 for clickable links and the full show notes and transcript of this cast.) Enjoy! Give us feedback! And, thanks for listening! If you'd like to continue discussing the concepts of procrastination, conscious deferral and/or unconscious deferral from this episode, please click here to leave a comment down below (this jumps you to the bottom of the post). In this Cast | Procrastination vs Conscious Deferral Ray Sidney-Smith Augusto Pinaud Art Gelwicks Francis Wade Show Notes | Procrastination vs Conscious Deferral Resources we mention, including links to them, will be provided here. Please listen to the episode for context. Key Takeaways Practice Persistent Starting: Don’t focus on the final outcome; focus on the act of beginning. Success is the aggregate of many small "starts." Diagnose the "Anchor Weight": If you are avoiding a task, it is likely due to a "lack of definition." Take five minutes to clarify the very next physical step to lower the barrier to entry. Distinguish Deferral from Procrastination: Conscious deferral is a strategic choice based on missing resources; procrastination is choosing a lower-value activity (like escapist media) over a high-priority intent. Utilize Retrospective Planning: After completing a difficult project, perform a "post-mortem" to document the steps you took. This creates a historical record that reduces anxiety for similar future tasks. Stop the "Shoulding": Avoid labeling yourself a "procrastinator." Using the term often induces shame and a "fear-based response" that further erodes the confidence needed to begin. Timestamps [01:51] The Anchor Weight: Why lack of definition causes stalling. [07:50] Unconscious Deferral vs. Procrastination: The role of the unconscious mind. [12:32] The Danger of Identity Labeling: Why calling yourself a "procrastinator" is harmful. [20:12] Moving Past Anxiety: Tactics for getting the ball rolling on new projects. [27:29] Persistent Starting: Using Dr. Neil Fiore’s technique to overcome blocks. [36:38] The Hunter-Gatherer Brain: Why our biology fights against long-term goals. [44:31] The Benefits of Procrastination: Using it as a filter for the unnecessary. Resources Mentioned Books: The Now Habit by Dr. Neil Fiore Atomic Habits by James Clear Concepts/Methods: Getting Things Done (GTD) The Byron Katie method for questioning thoughts. Retrospective (Backwards) Planning. People: Gretchen Rubin (The Four Tendencies/Upholders). Raw Text Transcript Raw, unedited and machine-produced text transcript so there may be substantial errors, but you can search for specific points in the episode to jump to, or to reference back to at a later date and time, by keywords or key phrases. The time coding is mm:ss (e.g., 0:04 starts at 4 seconds into the cast’s audio). Read More Voiceover Artist 0:00 Are you ready to manage your work and personal world better to live a fulfilling productive life, then you've come to the right place productivity cast, the weekly show about all things productivity. Here, your host Ray Sidney-Smith and Augusto Pinaud with Francis Wade and Art Gelwicks. Raymond Sidney-Smith 0:17 And Welcome back, everybody to productivity cast, the weekly show about all things personal productivity, I'm Ray Sidney Smith. Augusto Pinaud 0:24 I am Augusto Pinaud. Francis Wade 0:26I'm Francis Wade. Art Gelwicks 0:27 And I'm Art Gelwicks. Raymond Sidney-Smith | 00:29Welcome, gentlemen, and welcome to our listeners to this episode of ProductivityCast. Today, we are going to continue our conversation around procrastination and conscious deferral. And the conversation last time really covered mostly us discussing the defining nature of or just defining the nature of these two constructs, both procrastination and conscious deferral. And so what I'd like us to do is So if you have not listened to that episode, I would highly recommend that you hop back to the part one of this particular two episodes, and then we will now continue today in terms of really discussing the What we're going to do today is then start discussing why we procrastinate in the first place? What are some of the understandings of why we procrastinate and what are reasons for conscious deferral?And then we will… Discuss probably in and amongst that ways in which you can overcome procrastination and when it's probably appropriate to do conscious deferral. When it actually may not be, and it then bleeds back into procrastination. And there's a fine line there, of course.So let's talk about what are the major reasons why You all procrastinate. What are the reasons you've determined that procrastination ekes its way into your everyday life?Art Gelwicks | 01:51I'll throw myself under the bus first. One of the most common reasons that I'll put something off is lack of definition. If I haven't taken time to truly define out all the steps necessary to execute something, it winds up with this anchor weight attached to it to say, "Well, you don't know what you don't know, and you don't know quite what you're supposed to do, so maybe you should go do something else." Whether true or not, That's kind of where things wind up getting pushed to.So that, I'd say that's my primary one is lack of definition around what I'm supposed to be executing.Augusto Pinaud | 02:28Yeah, I need to agree with you 100%. For me… I can tell. By Monday morning. How good or bad my weekly review was on Friday. And I wish to tell that all of them are incredibly good. And I get out of there with a clear mind. And sometimes it doesn't happen. Even sometimes I do some kind of weekly review on Friday. I need to compliment that over the weekend because that is Lack of clarity, that lack of have that clear list of projects and actions, all that it produce is emergencies, fires and procrastination in my world.Francis Wade | 03:12I have a question though then, because the kind of the procrastination that Art was talking about sounds to me more like conscious deferral. That he's not unconsciously Putting off. The lack of definition. He's consciously doing it.Well, I should ask him. Are you unconsciously doing it because you haven't defined the action or are you consciously doing.Art Gelwicks | 03:33It? No, it's… I would agree it would look like conscious deferral that I'm making that action that, I don't have enough detail, therefore I can't get started. I'm not going to give it that level of credit. It's really a, it's a two-step problem. And the more I think about it, the first step in the problem is recognizing that I now need to allocate time to gather that information to know what I need to do for that thing.So for example, let's say I'm planning out an online ad. And I have some of the information I need, but I don't have all of it. And I know it needs to go out at a certain time.Well, I could just say it needs to be done. Or… What happens is I recognize that I need to spend some time filling in those gaps of the process necessary for that item, which means I'm going to have to chase down information to fill those gaps.So to execute that Task? There's a bunch of extra work that I need to front load. And that makes that task feel bigger, creating a bigger anchor, creating a bigger roadblock, therefore, subconsciously encouraging me to push that back to do things that I know I can accomplish and move forward on, which unfortunately winds up in that thing getting pushed back to a point where it becomes problematic.So. There may be times where that's a conscious thing where I say, look, I just don't know what I need to know. Therefore, I'm not going to do that thing. But to me, that's not procrastination. You're absolutely right. That's a choice. That's somebody hasn't provided me an update or something like that. That's a waiting on or a follow up. It's when I myself have not defined things clearly enough. To say Should or should I not proceed with this? That's when the procrastination part will kick in and say, you know what, why don't you hold off on that? You can go do something that you feel better about. And it's, I think it's the feel part more than anything. Because there isn't a rational reason to delay that work. It has to be done. There's nothing about it that says that you shouldn't be doing it. But there's a subconscious feeling there that's saying there's an almost an anxiety that's attached to it. Saying, you're going to find something that is going to be a real problem. Maybe you should put that off. I don't know if that helps any of us.Augusto Pinaud | 06:00No. And you bring a great point that it's that anxiety. It's the procrastination. It starts happening because I start getting all that anxiety of, is this really up to date? Is this really possible? The valuable task that I need to move forward? Is this really what need to happen? Or not. And that or not is the killing part of that.Francis Wade | 06:25I have a different, not different, but I have a… As I'm thinking about this, I wrote a an article on procrastination. It was a long time, like a decade ago. But I basically said that Something along the lines that procrastination was not well defined. And it seemed more like a The feeling. Than a fact. But what's happened over the years is that If someone were to ask me if I procrastinate, I would say no. I don't have that. Kind of self-talk. I don't use that term.

Procrastination Versus Conscious Deferral, Part 1

What if procrastination is not always procrastination? In this episode of ProductivityCast, we begin exploring the difference between true procrastination and conscious deferral, and why that distinction matters more than most people realize. This conversation challenges the labels we use, the judgment we attach to delay, and the hidden reasons we avoid certain tasks, making this a thought-provoking starting point for anyone who has ever wondered whether they are putting something off or making a more intentional choice. (If you’re reading this in a podcast directory/app, please visit https://productivitycast.net/144 for clickable links and the full show notes and transcript of this cast.) Enjoy! Give us feedback! And, thanks for listening! If you'd like to continue discussing procrastination versus conscious deferral from this episode, please click here to leave a comment down below (this jumps you to the bottom of the post). In this Cast | Procrastination Versus Conscious Deferral Ray Sidney-Smith Augusto Pinaud Art Gelwicks Francis Wade Show Notes | Procrastination Versus Conscious Deferral Resources we mention, including links to them, will be provided here. Please listen to the episode for context. In this first part of a two-part discussion, the ProductivityCast team examines the meaning of procrastination and questions whether the term has become too broad, judgmental, and unhelpful. The conversation begins by comparing common definitions of procrastination and quickly moves into a deeper exploration of whether all delay should be treated the same. The hosts distinguish between unconscious delay, conscious prioritization, and what Ray describes as conscious deferral, which is the intentional decision to postpone something for a clear reason. They also explore how the label of procrastination can create shame, obscure the real causes of delay, and distort how we interpret other people’s behavior in work and life. The episode ultimately reframes procrastination as a more complex mix of perception, prioritization, emotional regulation, and context, setting up a follow-up discussion on how to handle procrastination at both the project and task levels. Key Takeaways: Not every delay is procrastination; some delays are intentional, rational, and better understood as conscious deferral. Labeling yourself or others as a procrastinator can add shame without revealing the real cause of the delay. A better question than “Why am I procrastinating?” may be “What is preventing this from feeling clear, doable, or important right now?” In leadership and collaboration, replacing blame with curiosity helps uncover obstacles, competing priorities, or missing information. Much of what looks like procrastination may actually be displaced activity, where you are still doing something, just not the thing you believe you should be doing. Timestamps: [00:00] Introducing the problem of procrastination vs. conscious deferral [00:02] Why common definitions of procrastination may be too simplistic [00:05] Internal judgment, external judgment, and who gets to define procrastination [00:09] The emotional weight of procrastination and the case for conscious deferral [00:13] Unconscious choices, intuition, and the hidden reasons behind delay [00:19] How to think about procrastination in teams, leadership, and collaboration [00:33] Procrastination as displaced activity and preview of Part 2 Resources Mentioned: Wikipedia definition of procrastination Dr. Gary Klein on intuition Conversations for Action Raw Text Transcript Raw, unedited and machine-produced text transcript so there may be substantial errors, but you can search for specific points in the episode to jump to, or to reference back to at a later date and time, by keywords or key phrases. The time coding is mm:ss (e.g., 0:04 starts at 4 seconds into the cast’s audio). Read More Voiceover Artist 0:00 Are you ready to manage your work and personal world better to live a fulfilling productive life, then you've come to the right place productivity cast, the weekly show about all things productivity. Here, your host Ray Sidney-Smith and Augusto Pinaud with Francis Wade and Art Gelwicks. Raymond Sidney-Smith 0:17 And Welcome back, everybody to productivity cast, the weekly show about all things personal productivity, I'm Ray Sidney Smith. Augusto Pinaud 0:24 I am Augusto Pinaud. Francis Wade 0:26I'm Francis Wade. Art Gelwicks 0:27 And I'm Art Gelwicks. Raymond Sidney-Smith 0:28Welcome gentlemen, and welcome to our listeners to this episode of ProductivityCast. Today we're gonna be talking about procrastination versus or and conscious deferral. And what we're gonna do is we're gonna define procrastination. I think everybody procrastinates a little bit and sometimes a lot in their lives, and we wanna talk about why we procrastinate and what are some of the things we. Do when we consciously defer projects, goals, and tasks from what we are [00:01:00] presently and actively working on, and then we can close out with discussion on maybe if you are struggling with procrastination, what are some things that. If it's hindering your productivity, what can you do to get over that hump? And we can give some quick tips for folks to get started with conquering procrastination at the end. So let's start off at the top, which is, let's all get on perhaps the same page relating to procrastination. How do you define procrastination? I am gonna pause here for a moment. Francis, if you could just stay if everybody just stays off mute, I wanna see, I can void out your audio, so don't worry about muting yourself. Only because when I'm wondering if that has something to do with why it gets into the drift mode. 'cause when you are muted Oh. I'll start us off and you all can perhaps add on to the definition. And I went to a bunch of different places, but I think Wikipedia actually ended up having a, an interesting [00:02:00] definition that I don't necessarily agree with. And I think this is helpful for us to start the conversation, which is Wikipedia defines procrastination as an action of unnecessarily and. Voluntarily delaying or postponing something despite knowing that there will be negative consequences for doing so. So I immediately feel like this is not true in some perspective here because it says unnecessarily and voluntarily, and we know that not everybody is aware of the. Negative consequences and sometimes there are not negative consequences for procrastinating. And so I'm curious about just that base level definition from Wikipedia. Do you agree or disagree? That only works if you're taking involuntary delay and giving it a different name because [00:03:00] procrastination is a blanket term that any sort of a delay on something. It's either do it or don't do it. And if you do it, you're in action. If you're not, you're procrastinating. It's not about the how, so I don't know that I necessarily agree with their definition of procrastination. But I also don't think the term necessarily needs to include the cause. It is a delay of action. When an action should be taken. Maybe phrase it that way or it would be. Beneficial for an action to be taken, what the trigger of that could be, any number of things. And I don't think they, they are remotely related to the term procrastination. So this is where I have some difficulty because the most tasks, of course, are delayed until later. If not every task that you plan to do in the future is based on a delay and. There's a cost for delaying any [00:04:00] task. In other words it's, there's a risk that it might not get done. So the only way to remove the risk of doing a task and not doing a task in the future is to do it. No. So by that definition, procrastination covers every single task. That is, in other words, every time demand, every one that you're gonna do in the future, at that point, the verb procrastinate loses its value because all it's saying is, whatever you're not doing, whatever task you're not doing. No. At that point, I don't think it has much value. So I don't like the, I don't like the idea that procrastination is putting off a task. I don't think it, it adds a lot of value. I think there's a, what if we were to re rephrase the definition? 'cause we were all about definitions to procrastination. Being inaction when action should be taken. Because theoretically, if you're not doing something and you're [00:05:00] supposed to be doing that thing, you're either unintentionally putting it off. You're intentionally putting it off. It's an either or situation. There is a, there's a decision point for the conscious part, but the unconscious part, no, it can just happen. One of the things when we talk about what is procrastination, we never start to look at it from the standpoint of saying, okay, this, take something simple. Taking out the trash. I choose not to take out the trash. Or I'm going to do something else. I may have chosen to do something else. And what ha what happens is taking out the trash gets put off. But if that context isn't provided in the definition, the perception is then, oh, you procrastinated on taking out the trash. No, I did make a conscious decision to do something else I prioritized over. So when we go back to [00:06:00] procrastination. I still think it comes back to that inaction when action is warranted. How you get to that point could be any number of factors, but I think that's as simple in my mind. That's as simple as it gets. A piece that comes into mind for me though, is that your wife might say that you were procrastinating,

BookCast: Limitless by Jim Kwik

What if the world's #1 brain coach wrote a book that's better suited for someone else than you? The ProductivityCast crew puts Jim Kwik's Limitless under the microscope, and their verdict might save you 12 hours of listening time (or not! 😉). Today, we're doing a book review of Limitless: Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster, and Unlock Your Exceptional Life by Jim Kwik. (NOTE: We recorded this book review before Kwik published his latest edition, Limitless Expanded Edition (December 2025); however, at least for Ray, who had a chance to read the latest version, his opinions shared in this episode haven't changed.) (If you’re reading this in a podcast directory/app, please visit https://productivitycast.net/142 for clickable links and the full show notes and transcript of this cast.) Enjoy! Give us feedback! And, thanks for listening! If you'd like to continue discussing DRAFT from this episode, please click here to leave a comment down below (this jumps you to the bottom of the post). In this Cast | Limitless by Jim Kwik Ray Sidney-Smith Augusto Pinaud Art Gelwicks Francis Wade Show Notes | Limitless by Jim Kwik Resources we mention, including links to them, will be provided here. Please listen to the episode for context. In this BookCast installment, the ProductivityCast team dissects Jim Kwik's bestselling Limitless: Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster, and Unlock Your Exceptional Life. The panel explores the book's four-part framework — Free Your Mind, Limitless Mindset, Motivation, and Methods — and debates its value for different audience segments. Timestamps TimeTopic[00:00]Introduction & Book Overview — The hosts frame the BookCast format and introduce Limitless and Jim Kwik's background[04:30]First Impressions & Accessibility — The panel shares initial reactions, debating the book's entry-level tone and pop-culture framing[09:00]The Book as a Motivational Survey — Ray argues the book's strength lies in its motivational arc and broad survey of productivity concepts (Pomodoro, flow, mindset)[16:00]Pros & Cons Deep Dive — Discussion of the audiobook's bonus content, the book's resource page, repetitive self-promotion, and inconsistent acronym usage[23:00]Oversimplification & False Promises — Art raises concerns about "superhero" framing and the risk of leaving beginners feeling oversold and underserved[30:00]Amazon Ratings vs. Real-World Value — The hosts unpack the 4.7-star, 12,500-review score and what it actually signals about the book's audience[36:00]Who Should (and Shouldn't) Read This — Final recommendations: beginners benefit; experienced practitioners should go directly to the Kwik Brain podcast 📚 Resources Mentioned Books Referenced Limitless by Jim Kwik (the featured book) Getting Things Done by David Allen The 8th Habit by Dr. Stephen Covey Mindset by Dr. Carol Dweck Work Clean by Dan Charnas Works by Dr. Edward de Bono (including Six Thinking Hats) People Mentioned Jim Kwik — Author & brain coach Dr. Carol Dweck — Mindset researcher Dr. Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi — Flow theory Dr. Edward de Bono — Lateral thinking Mel Robbins — Guest on Kwik Brain podcast Dr. Michael Breus — Guest on Kwik Brain podcast Dr. Brené Brown — Referenced for comparison Anthony Robbins — Referenced for comparison Stan Lee — Referenced re: Kwik's Marvel relationship Tools & Resources Kwik Brain podcast by Jim Kwik Limitless book resources page Limitless audiobook (available in full on YouTube at time of recording) The 10-Day Kwik Start Plan (included at the back of the book) Raw Text Transcript Raw, unedited and machine-produced text transcript so there may be substantial errors, but you can search for specific points in the episode to jump to, or to reference back to at a later date and time, by keywords or key phrases. The time coding is mm:ss (e.g., 0:04 starts at 4 seconds into the cast’s audio). Read More Note: Parts of this automated transcript mixed up Francis and Art 🤪, so definitely listen to the audio to note who said what. Voiceover: Are you ready to manage your work and personal world better to live a more fulfilling, productive life? Voiceover: Then you've come to the right place. Voiceover: Welcome to ProductivityCast, the weekly show about all things personal productivity. Voiceover: Here are your hosts, Ray Sidney Smith and Augusto Pinault with Francis Wade and Art Gelwicks. Raymond: Welcome back, everybody, to ProductivityCast, the weekly show about all things personal productivity. Raymond: I'm Ray Sidney Smith. Augusto: And I'm Augusto Pinaud. Francis: I'm Francis Wade. Francis: And I'm Art Gelwicks. Raymond: Welcome, gentlemen, and welcome to our listeners to this episode of ProductivityCast. Raymond: Today, we are going to be doing one of our book cast series. Raymond: Basically, we're reading and discussing books that we think are of interest to the productivity community. Raymond: And we're somewhat reviewing them for folks so that they can know whether or not they'd be worth picking up. Raymond: And today, we're going to be discussing Limitless, Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster, and Unlock Your Exceptional Life by Jim Quick. Raymond: And so a little bit about the author and then a little bit about the book, and then we will get into our discussion. Raymond: So Jim Quick, from his own website's bio, says, Raymond: For the past three decades, Jim taught his learning techniques to students from universities such as NYU, Harvard, Columbia, Stanford, and Singularity, Raymond: as well as executives and employees from companies such as Nike, GE, Zappos, SpaceX, and Virgin to get the most out of work and life. Raymond: He started out as, quote unquote, the boy with the broken brain, and over the past 30 years has been teaching all of these various methods for helping people, quote unquote, upgrade their brains. Raymond: The book itself from the Amazon description says, quote, Jim Quick, the world's number one brain coach, has written the owner's manual for mental expansion and brain fitness. Raymond: Limitless gives people the ability to accomplish more, more productivity, more transformation, more personal success and business achievement by changing their mindset, motivation, and methods. Raymond: So those are the three M's that he talks about in the book. Raymond: And I won't read the entire description here, but that's kind of the general gist of the book in essence. Raymond: So what I want to do today is I want to talk about kind of three different components here. Raymond: One is covering the key points. Raymond: What are the things that stood out for you in terms of the book? Raymond: And then we'll talk about the pros and cons of the book and some of the key takeaways that you had from reading the book. Raymond: And then finally, would you recommend or not recommend this book? Raymond: And why? Raymond: That is to whom and why? Raymond: So let's start off with kind of the overview of the book. Raymond: The book itself is broken up into four different parts. Raymond: The free your mind. Raymond: And this is really, I think, his opus on overcoming the reality that somehow you have a limited brain. Raymond: You have some kind of limitations. Raymond: How to kind of unwrap that component and think expansively. Raymond: Then part two, which is the limitless mindset. Raymond: Then part three, which is limitless motivation. Raymond: And then part four, which is limitless methods. Raymond: Basically, he goes from the what to the why to the how. Raymond: And among amongst those pieces, he gives little tidbits along the way. Raymond: What did you think about the book generally? Raymond: What were those key points throughout the book that that stood out for you all? Art: I I didn't actually read the book. Art: I used the audio book version of it, which made it a little bit. Art: I don't know if I want to say more challenging. Art: The overall sense I got from the book is that this this is a title that if you have never done any personal exploration into improving your productivity. Art: This is about as entry level as you get. Art: There's a lot of classic tropes, classic comments, classic nuggets of wisdom that are honestly every place that are consolidated into the book. Art: I was a little put off by some of the framing of some of the content. Art: Specifically, you know, how you can do anything. Art: You can master anything. Art: You can use 100 percent of your brain. Art: Stuff that we know through, you know, tried and true testing isn't accurate. Art: And it actually creates. Art: It can create a situation for somebody who's trying to get into improving their own productivity that they feel oversold when they try when they they listen to a lot of this stuff. Art: And there's key things. Art: And I know I'm fumbling with the explanation on this a little bit, but he'll go through a chapter and then he ends the chapter with here's the quick action. Art: Do this. Art: I'll use an example one. Art: He has a section on memory and he's talking about, you know, improving your memory and things like that. Art: And he ends with the quick action. Art: Memorize someone's phone number. Art: And that's the takeaway from the chapter. Art: And I listen to that. Art: I'm like, OK, I've listened to for this for quite a period of time now. Art: And you have just told me to memorize a phone number, which apparently was my problem to listen to the chapter in the first place. Art: Because if I can do that, I wouldn't have been listening to the chapter.

ProductivityCast is Back!

We are thrilled to announce that ProductivityCast is officially relaunching on April 6th! We have missed our community and are so excited to get back to our regular publishing schedule. We have a wealth of all-new topics prepared and plenty of fresh insights to discuss regarding the world of personal productivity.To ensure you don’t miss our return, please take a moment to check your favorite podcast app. While seeing this update means you are likely already connected with us, we recommend verifying that you are properly subscribed and that your notification and auto-download settings are turned on. This ensures our new episodes will be waiting for you the moment they arrive. We truly look forward to being back in your ears and sharing this next chapter with you!